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Old 02-23-2009, 02:55 PM   #1
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Are there any good online resources for this road? I am trying to find more information on the LGB 2055 Alco loco, especiallly in the white/blue/black paint scheme. All I see are the yellow and green paint schemes. Did the livery of the 2055 even exist?
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Yes the livery did exist .... briefly .... only a couple of locos in this class AFAIK (106 and 110) were repainted into this livery before the WP&YR was nationalised and the scheme changed to All Over Blue.
All the Alco / MLW locos (of the type modelled by LGB) were originally painted in the Green and Yellow livery, this was being changed to Blue and White around 1977 before the WP&YR was nationalised in 1980 and the livery was amended to All Over Blue. All the class had received the All Over Blue livery when the WP&YR ceased operations due to its main source of income closing down.

The original order for these Alco locos was for seven units (101 to 107) in 1969 but two were immediately destroyed in the 1969 Roundhouse blaze (102 and 105) along with the other WP&YR diesel modelled by LGB (Plymouth Shunter No.3). A further three locos were therefore ordered (108 to 110). The carcasses of the two fire casualty Alco's were kept as body parts donors until cut up in 1995. When the WP&YR closed down, the five oldest Alco's (101 / 103 / 104 / 106 / 107) were sold to a railway in Columbia but were bought back again when the new private WP&YR venture re-opened in 1988, now mainly for the tourist traffic from passing cruise liners. When the WP&YR started up operations again in 1988, the livery stayed All Over Blue for a while but the livery has recently reverted back to the classic Green & Yellow.

Ironically, freight (ore) business was at a high in the early 80's and the WP&YR had ordered four larger diesels from Bombardier (111 to 114) ... only 114 was delivered (in All Over Blue livery) before closure and so the other three were sold to another operator.

In a nutshell then ...
Green / Yellow livery ..... 1954 til 1980
Blue / White livery ........ 1977 til 1980 (only locos 93, 97, 98, 100, 106 and 110 received this livery)
All Over Blue livery ........ 1980 til 1982 then 1988 til as late as 2007
Green / Yellow livery ..... 1990 to present.
There was obviously some overlap dates with the liveries.

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Old 05-27-2009, 01:19 AM   #3
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Wow - amazing information.

It's funny how even in the Internet age it is difficult to locate many prototype photos of this model.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:49 AM   #4
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Plenty of WP&YR sites "Two Rail" ..... here is a good one to start with for some photos ... click on loco number down left hand side .....

http://www.carsandtrains.com/ironroad/wpy/wpyindex.html

(don't go into menus under the photos or you'll get deferred to other railroads ....unless you want to browse other railroads of course).


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I do find the LGB Alco diesel a little puzzling in regard to its lighting.
A flashing red lantern is mounted on the roof that flashes when travelling in reverse. I had always assumed that this was a Mars Light for use when travelling forwards (not backwards). If it is a tail light, I'm wondering why it doesn't have a red light at the other end as well? I notice that some of the real White Pass Alcos are having the red roof lantern removed, which further leads me to believe that this is not a tail light. Can anyone shed any light on this please?
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I have started an LGB White Pass website. Not live yet as still under construction, but here's a link if anyone is interested .........

http://skagway.webs.com/index.htm

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